You are correct sort of and this is wear Apple is more consumer friendly. You can buy your comics other places and import them to your iOS device using a CBR reader and transferring the file. Amazon does not allow this on the Kindle fire, the only way to get a file on the fire is to buy it from Amazon or root the device and void warranties and break TOS. You also can't get music purchased not from the Amazon MP3 or movies purchased elsewhere on the your Kindle easily and within all the rules. The iPad is much more friendly to people buying elsewhere then Amazon is.drew102e wrote:fudd71 wrote:Making a purchase from eBay, Amazon (non MP3 or Amazon streaming video) or any other non-digital retail site with their app is not an in-app purchase. Theses apps simply allow communication between the merchant and the buyer. Apple or Google gets nothing in this type of transaction. Example: I order a bicycle from the Amazon app, they ship me a bicycle, transaction finished. The hardware and operating system of the device is nothing more then a way for me to tell Amazon I would like to purchase a bicycle and provide my payment information it is not necessary for the use of the bicycle in the future.drew102e wrote:not all in app purchases work this way though - i have an ebay app on my iphone, when i sell an item, i pay ebay & paypal their cut (don't get me started on this double dipping BS) BUT that's it, the rest is mine, Apple/Google get nada...whats the difference?
nor is it with a comic, there are lots of ways to buy a digital comic, panelsyndicate, monkeybrain, thrillbent, image, dc, marvel will all sell you a comic, some even DRM free,
there are also lots of ways to read a digital comic and you don't need the comixology app, plenty of cbr readers out there. now i agree comixology does it better, like itunes does a better job with music than other players, but i can buy music anywhere and import into itunes, again no cut for them...
drew102e wrote:no way is it that high, when i buy a book for my kindle amazon gets a piece off the top, the rest goes to publisher/author, even if i read it on my ipad with the kindle app, apple doesnt get squat and isnt that amazing it works like a charm, that's the model we should look to and it works just fine.fudd21 wrote:My guess is Comixology gets between 45-75% of the purchase price of comic and they simply don't want to share that with Apple.
It does work like a charm, too bad Amazon doesn't allow you to buy from iBooks and read on an iBooks app on the Kindle without paying Amazon. You really want to know who is greedy here look at who allows you to import purchases from elsewhere to their device and who doesn't.
I don't know what the deal in place with Comixology is for how much the publishers get per sale. I do know the book deals however. Large book publishers (except Random House) set the ebook price and get 70% of the sale. The seller Amazon, Barnes & Noble, iBooks whoever gets the remaining 30%. That is why ebook prices are universal among all sellers and when they go on sale they go on sale at all ebook sellers. You bring up the seller getting 30% and it doesn't matter where you buy it, that is correct. However only Apple allows you to read ebooks bought through Amazon or Barnes & Nobel on their device (using the Kindle app, Nook app etc.). Apple gives the consumer a choice if you wish to buy from Amazon, Barnes & Noble wherever and read on your iPad you can do that, and easily and within the rules. You just can't purchase on the device on buy from Apple. Amazon does not allow this, there is no easy within the rules way to read an ebook purchases from Barnes & Noble or iBooks on a Kindle.
If interested Random House and Kindle Direct work differently. I will explain that here, stop reading if your not interested (it is only very tangentially related to this topic).
Random House ebooks are sold much more like tradition books would be. Random House sells ebooks to the reseller at 50% of list of the print book, the reseller is then free to sell that ebook at any price they choose. Random House gets 50% of list irrespective of what the reseller sells the ebook for.
Kindle Direct (self publishing of ebooks with Amazon) has two different options for getting paid. One is a simple you get 35% of whatever the customer pays and you set the price (Amazon gets 65% this is one reason I guessed for some very small publishers comixology might not be much better). The second option is 70% of what the book sells for. However there are bunch of hoops you have to jump through to take that option and Amazon has discretion to change the price you set to whatever they want and they charge you a bunch of processing fees. From people I know that have done the 70% option you end up only getting about 40% of the price you listed the book at when all the fees are said and done so it really isn't worth all the extra work for what amounts to 5%.